NESARA, the mark of the beast, and miraculous biblical healing collide in this July 22, 2025 B2T Show conversation between Rick Rene and Dr. Scott Young — a Tulsa-based audiologist and researcher who has spent more than three decades studying geopolitics, end-times prophecy, and the corrupt financial system from a deeply biblical worldview. This post covers every major topic from that interview: what NESARA actually proposes, why Dr. Young insists it is not the mark of the beast, what Revelation 13 actually says about the mark’s requirements, the Quantum Financial System explained, the sealed indictments and election fraud picture, and how Dr. Young hears from God in his early-morning quiet time — the same spiritual discipline that preceded his miraculous ICU healing in 2019.
Who Is Dr. Scott Young?
Dr. Scott Young has been studying what many call the globalist agenda since the 1990s. He does not read one book on a subject — he reads eight. Bookstores in Tulsa knew him by name because he would buy every available title on JFK, 9/11, and the Federal Reserve until the shelves were empty. He recognizes that the label “conspiracy theorist” was deliberately engineered by intelligence agencies and media to shame people out of asking hard questions, and he has made it his life’s work to ask them anyway — then answer them with sourced research and Scripture.
In 2011 someone introduced him to the concept of the cabal (he prefers “anti-cabal”). He owns a business in Tulsa and works as an audiologist. His books include Nasara and the Mark of the Beast (2020) and Revelations of the Red Pill. His main website is dr.scottyoung.com, where his books, videos, and teachings are available. Note: his wife is currently uploading his video library to FaithNFreedomTV for wider distribution. Multiple fake channels impersonate him — the email nasara88@gmail is not affiliated with Dr. Young.
The 2019 Miracle That Changed Everything
The most personally transforming event in Dr. Young’s life happened in 2019. He left a Colorado Avalanche hockey game early, fell asleep on the couch, and woke at 2 a.m. in a medical crisis serious enough to require emergency hospitalization. Over three days, doctors issued 13 separate diagnoses and still could not identify the cause. His charts were faxed to 100 physicians across the country for consultation. Then he walked out of the ICU perfectly healed. He has video documentation of the event and later wrote about it in depth.
That experience permanently reoriented his spiritual perspective. He told his sister: “I’m not the same brother you remember.” Where he previously approached research intellectually and journalistically, he now runs everything through a spiritual lens that was simply not there before. His study of healing scripture, end-times prophecy, and the financial reset all now flows through that lens.
COVID, Medical Training, and the Incoherence of 2020
Dr. Young’s background includes training in surgical environments and burn units. That training made the public health guidance of 2020 immediately recognizable to him as medically incoherent. Proper protocol in any clinical setting requires discarding a mask and gloves after each case and putting on new ones — this was never communicated to the public. He watched a gas-station worker use kitchen tongs to hand a customer a cup, then accept cash directly with the same bare hands: a perfectly observed illustration of how theater replaced science.
He also noted that “asymptomatic COVID” was a diagnostic impossibility: insurance companies require a reported symptom before any diagnosis can be coded and billed. A condition with zero symptoms cannot, by definition, be diagnosed or reimbursed. The silence of medical professionals who knew better was, in his assessment, the most disturbing feature of that period.
NESARA Explained: Ending the Fed, the IRS, and Fraudulent Debt
Dr. Young’s 2020 book, Nasara and the Mark of the Beast, lays out the core NESARA framework as he understands it. The key components:
- End the Federal Reserve and transition to a gold-backed (asset-backed) currency. When the dollar is backed by real assets, purchasing power rises and prices drop dramatically for ordinary Americans.
- End the IRS. A new External Revenue Service (ERS) would replace it, focused on tariffs and government fraud — not the income and financial activity of individual citizens.
- Wipe fraudulent institutional debt. The large debts created by what Dr. Young calls the big 13 banks — including most mortgages brokered through those institutions, car loans through entities like GE Capital One, and credit cards held by those banks — would be discharged in a Chapter 11-style reset. The core legal argument: the 14th Amendment already declares much of this debt null and void because it was created fraudulently. The bank, in many cases, never actually showed up to sign the loan document alongside the borrower — a legal vulnerability that becomes decisive once the corrupt system is removed.
Dr. Young draws a sharp line between institutional debt and personal debt. If an individual lent $100 to a neighbor, that obligation would not be erased — NESARA targets fraudulently created bank debt, not agreements between private individuals. He also directly addresses the rumor that NESARA means everyone receives a $5 million check: he calls that bad economics and says no credible source teaches it.
He makes a pointed observation about skeptics: even figures like Juan O. Savin who express doubt about the full NESARA package already believe in ending the Fed, ending the IRS, and stopping election fraud — which are, Dr. Young argues, the core tenets of NESARA. The label may be disputed; the substance less so.
Gold, Silver, Currencies, and the Petrodollar Transition
On practical holdings, Dr. Young sees gold and silver as strong positions — with silver offering a more favorable ratio for many people at current prices. He mentions revaluation of currencies like the Iraqi dinar and Vietnamese dong as part of the broader transition dynamic.
The mechanism he describes: when the U.S. secures control of oil through the Strait of Hormuz and the petrodollar system ends, the move to a gold-backed U.S. Treasury note accelerates. The U.S. Treasury officially set the gold price at $42.22 in 1944 and has kept it artificially suppressed ever since. When the reset occurs, a new realistic gold price will be established — and that repricing is central to how the new system is funded.
Crypto, the Stablecoin Act, and XRP
Dr. Young is clear: cryptocurrency is not the new global reserve standard and will not replace national currencies. The Stablecoin Act, in his analysis, accomplished what was needed in the crypto space and effectively killed central bank digital currencies (CBDCs). The role he sees for crypto — specifically XRP and XLM — is as fast, cheap connectors between financial institutions. Transaction costs at fractions of a cent matter enormously when multiplied across billions of daily bank-to-bank transfers. Crypto facilitates those rails; it does not replace the underlying asset-backed monetary system.
The Quantum Financial System: What It Is and How It Works
The Quantum Financial System, as Dr. Young describes it, is the Treasury-run replacement for the central banking structure — gold and commodity-backed, and created around the same time as Bitcoin. Where Bitcoin’s design is open and visible, the QFS uses distributed ledger technology to protect individual privacy. It creates digital walls: government and the new ERS can see illegal activity (drug trafficking, financial crimes), but the financial life of law-abiding citizens remains private. Dr. Young compares the dynamic to what DOGE is doing — exposing fraud at the top while insulating ordinary Americans from government surveillance of their finances.
The contrast with the current Federal Reserve system is deliberate: the Fed was built for extraction; the QFS is, in Dr. Young’s framing, built for protection. Once the IRS is replaced by the ERS, the new agency’s mandate shifts entirely to tariffs and cleaning up government fraud rather than monitoring individual Americans’ income.
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Sealed Indictments, Election Fraud, and Military Tribunals
Dr. Young puts the number of sealed indictments at somewhere between 600,000 and 1 million, with roughly 80% of those being election and voter fraud cases. He describes postmasters and mail carriers who received new mail trucks every four years as part of their participation in fraud — and notes that many are now flipping and cooperating with investigators. ICE detention facilities, he notes, have been quietly expanded not only for illegal immigration enforcement but also to hold some of these individuals.
Military tribunals, in his account, are already happening — largely behind the scenes for now, with more becoming public as the process matures. On the election integrity side, he points to Oregon as an example: 600,000 dead voters removed from the rolls, with 35–40 states in various stages of similar cleanup. Once the Save Act is fully implemented and selection machines are removed, the structural advantages that enabled fraud disappear.
What Revelation 13 Actually Says: The Mark, the Beast, and the Image
Dr. Young has studied more than 600 Bible verses on end-times topics and roughly 300 on the millennial reign of Christ. His foundational principle: all Scripture is God-breathed (2 Timothy 3:16), and every verse must be placed in its correct prophetic position or confusion cascades through every downstream interpretation.
His reading of Revelation 13: the first beast — the Antichrist — emerges from obscurity and rules for exactly seven years before being cast into the lake of fire by Michael the Archangel. The second beast is the false prophet, a religious figure. The image of the beast is an inanimate object that becomes animated — a form of artificial intelligence specifically created to facilitate worship of the Antichrist.
The mark of the beast, Dr. Young argues, cannot be received accidentally or unknowingly. The Greek word for “mark” carries specific meaning, and the act of receiving it requires conscious worship — physically bowing, with full knowledge of what is being accepted. Many popular teachings miss this requirement entirely, which is why so many believers are alarmed by every new technology or financial system as a potential mark. The worship requirement is not a fine-print footnote; it is the theological center of the entire passage.
Why NESARA Is Not the Mark of the Beast
This is the question the interview’s title poses directly, and Dr. Young addresses it with his characteristic detail. His argument has two parts.
First, the mark requires the beast — and the Antichrist has not yet been revealed or enthroned. No beast, no mark. Systems that were attempted during the COVID era — digital health certificates, medical control infrastructure, financial surveillance tools — were the cabal’s attempt to create a “mark without the beast.” It was a premature, hijacked version of the genuine prophetic sequence.
Second, because the cabal attempted to hijack Scripture, Dr. Young believes God is responding creatively and powerfully. He points to Psalm 91:8 — “You will only look with your eyes and see the recompense of the wicked” — and notes that four distinct Hebrew words in that verse combine to mean: you will absolutely, unmistakably see it. The military tribunals and the exposure of wickedness currently underway are, in his reading, the fulfillment of that promise. NESARA, in this framework, represents a coming period of abundance and revival before — not during or after — the final Tribulation.
Hearing from God: The Early-Morning Quiet Time
Dr. Young rises at 3:00 or 4:00 a.m. for quiet time with God before anything else enters the day. No electronics. No lights initially. He sits by a gas-log fireplace, lets his back warm, and waits on the Lord in silence. A notebook and pen are always within reach, because the random thoughts that surface during that stillness frequently turn out to be what he recognizes as genuine downloads from God — including once a reminder to pay a bill he had completely forgotten.
He offers a theological precision that he finds practically useful: faith is forward-looking (toward what God will do); belief looks backward (at what God has already done); hope sits in the middle and must be protected by faith like a shield. Abraham’s promise about his descendants was not fully fulfilled until the millennial reign — yet Abraham is in the Hebrews 11 Hall of Faith. The investment in faith, over time, transforms into belief. Hope stays alive in the process.
Closing Prayer
Rick and Dr. Young closed the broadcast with prayer — for Dr. Young’s wife, who is dealing with serious eye and back issues; for the Iranian people and the spread of the gospel in Iran; for children being rescued from trafficking; and for Rob’s healing. Rick reminded listeners that the Great Awakening is a spiritual battle and that believers have authority in Christ to participate in it actively. Dr. Young’s encouragement: stay close to God, meet with Him daily in the quiet, and remember that things are moving on God’s timeline even when progress feels slow from a human perspective.
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Questions About NESARA, the Mark of the Beast & Biblical Healing
What is NESARA and what does a NESARA debt reset actually involve?
NESARA (National Economic Security and Recovery Act, sometimes paired with GESARA at the global level) is a proposed financial reset framework centered on three core changes: ending the Federal Reserve and replacing it with a gold-backed or asset-backed currency; abolishing the IRS and creating a new External Revenue Service focused on tariffs and government fraud; and discharging fraudulent institutional debt — including mortgages, car loans, and credit cards held by the major banks — that Dr. Young argues was created unlawfully. On this B2T Show episode, Dr. Scott Young explains that the 14th Amendment already provides legal grounding for declaring much of that debt null and void, since in many cases the banks never properly executed the loan contracts. He is emphatic that NESARA does not mean every American receives a large cash payment — that claim is bad economics and not taught by any credible source in this space.
What was Dr. Scott Young’s miraculous healing, and what does it have to do with biblical healing scriptures?
In 2019, Dr. Young was rushed to the hospital in the middle of the night after falling ill following a hockey game. Over three days, 13 different diagnoses were issued and his charts were sent to 100 physicians across the country — none could identify the cause. Then he walked out of the ICU completely healed. He has video documentation of the event. The experience permanently shifted his worldview and deepened his engagement with biblical healing promises. Where he previously approached research as a journalist and researcher, he now reads end-times prophecy, the financial reset, and current events through a spiritual lens shaped by firsthand encounter with God’s miraculous power. His healing is the experiential foundation for everything else he teaches.
What does the Bible say about the mark of the beast in Revelation 13?
Revelation 13 describes two distinct beasts: the first is the Antichrist, who emerges from obscurity and rules for exactly seven years before being cast into the lake of fire by Michael the Archangel. The second beast is the false prophet — a religious figure who directs worship toward the Antichrist. The image of the beast is an inanimate object that becomes animated — Dr. Young identifies this as a type of artificial intelligence created specifically for worship. The mark of the beast is the mechanism by which allegiance to the Antichrist is formalized. Dr. Young stresses that Scripture places these events in a specific sequential order, and that misplacing even one verse creates cascading interpretive errors — which is why so many believers misidentify current technologies as potential marks.
What is the biblical meaning of the mark of the beast, and can it be received accidentally?
According to Dr. Young’s study of the Greek text of Revelation, the mark of the beast cannot be received accidentally, unknowingly, or through passive participation in a financial system. The Greek word translated “mark” carries a specific meaning tied to ownership and allegiance. More importantly, Revelation makes clear that receiving the mark requires a deliberate act of worship — physically bowing before the Antichrist with full conscious knowledge of what is being accepted. This worship requirement is not incidental; it is the theological heart of the passage. Dr. Young argues that most popular teaching on the mark misses or minimizes this requirement, which generates unnecessary fear about technologies like digital payments, QR codes, or financial reset systems that have no worship component attached to them.
What is the Quantum Financial System (QFS) and how does it differ from the current Federal Reserve system?
The Quantum Financial System is, as Dr. Young describes it, a Treasury-run replacement for the Federal Reserve’s central banking structure — gold and commodity-backed, privacy-protecting, and created around the same period as Bitcoin. Unlike the current system, which Dr. Young characterizes as built for financial extraction and surveillance of ordinary citizens, the QFS uses distributed ledger technology to create digital walls around individual financial privacy. Government and the new External Revenue Service can only access data related to illegal activity — drug trafficking, financial crimes — while the lawful financial life of ordinary Americans remains invisible to the state. He compares its approach to what DOGE has been doing: targeting fraud at the top while leaving law-abiding citizens alone.
What does ending the Fed and moving to a gold-backed currency actually mean for everyday Americans?
Dr. Young argues that when the dollar is backed by real assets — gold and commodities — rather than by debt and Federal Reserve note issuance, purchasing power increases substantially and the prices of goods and services drop. The U.S. Treasury officially set the gold price at $42.22 in 1944 and has kept it artificially suppressed for decades. When the monetary reset occurs, a new realistic gold price will be established — and that repricing is a key funding mechanism for the transition. The simultaneous end of the IRS and its replacement with an External Revenue Service focused on tariffs rather than individual income means most Americans would experience the reset as both a reduction in living costs and the elimination of income tax compliance obligations.
Is NESARA the mark of the beast? Dr. Scott Young’s direct answer.
No — and Dr. Young wrote an entire book on precisely this question. His argument rests on a structural point from Revelation: the mark of the beast cannot exist without the beast. The Antichrist must first be revealed and enthroned before the mark becomes possible. What happened during the COVID era — digital health certificates, vaccine passports, financial surveillance infrastructure — was, in his analysis, the cabal’s attempt to build a “mark without the beast”: a premature, Scripture-hijacking version of the prophetic sequence. NESARA, by contrast, represents a coming period of financial restoration and revival that precedes the final Tribulation — not a mechanism of the Tribulation itself. The two are not just different; they are prophetically opposite in Dr. Young’s framework.
What is the current status of sealed indictments and election fraud cases?
Dr. Young estimates between 600,000 and 1 million sealed indictments currently exist in the federal system, with approximately 80% tied to election and voter fraud. He describes a network of defendants — including postmasters and mail carriers who reportedly received new mail trucks every four years as compensation for participating in fraud — who are now cooperating with investigators. ICE detention facilities have been quietly expanded beyond their immigration function to accommodate some of these individuals. Military tribunals, he says, are already underway behind the scenes. On the election integrity side, he points to states like Oregon, which has removed 600,000 dead voters from rolls, as representative of cleanup efforts in 35–40 states.
How does Dr. Scott Young hear from God — what does his morning prayer routine look like?
Dr. Young rises between 3:00 and 4:00 a.m. every morning for quiet time with the Lord before electronics, news, or any other input enters the day. He starts in darkness — no lights — and sits by a gas-log fireplace to let the warmth settle in while he waits on God in silence. A notebook and pen are always within reach because the thoughts that arise during that stillness frequently turn out to be genuine guidance or reminders from God, including once a specific prompt to pay a forgotten bill. He distinguishes faith (forward-looking, toward what God will do), belief (backward-looking, anchored in what God has done), and hope (which lives between them and must be actively protected by faith). The discipline of showing up daily in that quiet, he says, is what keeps hope alive even when prophetic timelines feel slow.
